Atheists often hear the same arguments
from many Christians over and over again.
In fact, if an atheist is active in the atheist community eventually it
gets to the point where we just don’t hear an original argument any more. One of the most common is, “What if you’re
wrong?” The argument is that if I am
right about there being no God it still does me no harm to believe it. When it comes time for the afterlife there is
simply nothing, like I already believe.
No harm, no foul. But if I’m
wrong and I do not worship then I spend an eternity in Hell for not
believing. According to the argument
I’ve nothing to lose by believing no matter whether God exists or doesn’t, but
there’s a 50/50 chance I could spend an eternity in Hell if I don’t.
The problems with this argument, of
course, are many. Let’s start with my
chances. While a 50/50 chance sounds
reasonable on the surface because we are looking at only two possibilities, that
I am right or I am wrong, it is WAY off from any actual chances because what
one believes does not have any effect whatsoever on reality. I could believe that 2+2=17 and you could
believe that 2+2=143. There is not a
50/50 chance for each of us to be right just because we are only looking at two
beliefs. In fact, it does not matter one
bit what we believe. It does not affect
the reality that 2+2=4 whatsoever. In
this case there is a 100% chance that we are both wrong.
The same is true when saying that there
is a 50/50 chance that I am wrong. It’s
not even close. There are many, many
more gods than the Christian God, and some of them want to punish me for not
believing too. In fact, EVEN IF the
Christian God were the one true God, then I would STILL have to choose the
correct Christian religion to avoid eternal damnation. How do I do that? I would have to look at the options available
to me and make an informed decision about what I should believe. I’ve done that. That’s why I’m atheist.
Another truth is that I very much have
something to lose. If I’m right and this
life is all I have then spending hours a week in worship of an imaginary deity
is a waste of what little time I have in this world. In fact, wasting just 2 hours a week for 60
years, a very conservative figure, I would be throwing away more than half a
year of my life doing something completely pointless. Not only that, I’ve been in a fundamentalist
religion before. I know firsthand what I
have to lose and, more importantly, what my children have to lose by being
members of some of the wackier Christian religions. It could potentially be even worse if we were
Catholic since priests apparently can’t keep their hands off of little
boys. There have been many instances of
children committing suicide as the direct result of abuses by Catholic
priests. So now the question becomes,
“What if I choose wrong?” Not only do I
STILL go to Hell by some religious beliefs, but I ALSO waste my life in worship
of the wrong thing AND my children may be severely emotionally damaged by a
cult-like fundamentalist religion or a grabby priest; maybe even both.
To put this into perspective I like to
ask, “Do you believe in vampires?” Of
course not. That’s laughable. But…What if you’re wrong? What if there ARE vampires? What if you go your whole life not believing
in vampires and then one night you get bitten by one, die, come back and kill
your family? After all, you have a 50/50
chance of being wrong. So, just in case,
what would it hurt to sneak holy water out of churches and drink some every
night, just in case? If your blood is
filled with holy water then you should be safe from vampires, right? I don’t understand why EVERYONE isn’t doing
that. If you drink holy water and there
are no vampires then you don’t lose anything, but if you drink holy water and
vampires are real it could save your life!
Of course the argument is ludicrous, but not one bit less ludicrous than
it is when used for religious beliefs.
Most atheists approach this from another
angle. There are thousands of religions
on the planet right now and if I were to worship “just in case” I could not be
only Christian. I would also have to be
Jewish, Muslim and any other religion where an eternal afterlife of torment, or
at least the missed opportunity for an eternal life of happiness was promised
if I did not worship. So, again, the
only way for me to determine which religion, if any, I should follow would be
to examine them all for their merits and make an informed, unbiased decision based
on the empirical evidence. Again, I’ve
already done that with as many religions as I care to and that’s why I’m an
atheist.
The most annoying part about this
argument is that the person making it has never asked themselves that same
question. They have never asked
themselves, “What if there is a god, but not the God I am currently
worshiping?” As any atheist who’s seen
all these arguments before can tell you, the person making the argument always
excludes their beliefs from the argument.
There’s the argument, “Nothing can come from nothing. The universe must have been created.” When asked who created their God they
respond, “He always was”, excluding their God from the confines of the very
argument they just made, completely unaware that if it works for one thing it
will work for another. If one thing
“must” have been created then everything “must” have been created. If one thing can exist without being created
then other things can exist without being created. Each of these arguments has specific logical
fallacies associated with them, but I just call them all “The argument and the
exception”. That description fits an
alarming number of theistic arguments.
They will make their argument, then make an exception for their
god/religion/holy writings/people/history/etc.
I’ve seen it used in creation, I’ve seen it used in arguments that
priests are called and led by God, but child molesting priests are somehow
different (after all, why would God call someone to the priesthood knowing that
the direct result of his intervention into one man’s life would lead to the molestation
of hundreds of children?), I’ve seen it used to refute all “holy” writings
except one, I’ve seen it used to explain how religious people are better people
but exclude religious people who were not good people…I’ve seen it used in just
about every religious argument.
Technical fallacies aside, this description accurately portrays a large
number of the arguments I’ve seen.
All theists seem to lower the bar
considerably when it comes to their own religious beliefs. In my experience only atheists are willing to
demand the same level of evidence for their own beliefs that they demand for
any other. Most atheists I know will
freely admit that they can never know for sure that no gods exist. If they can’t prove it, they don’t claim it. If everyone had the same standard we’d all be
atheists. Or at least Christians
wouldn’t have this annoying attitude that they are absolutely right and anyone
who doesn’t believe it is the enemy.
Personally, I think a lot of the anger and aggravation from theists
comes from the fact that they get angry to avoid having to listen to the
reasonable arguments that would cement their own doubts in their beliefs.
Excellent post. When I left the Mormon church, there were quite a few people that tried to argue with me that "if it ends up being true, you'll be happy you stayed!" But the costs of staying were just too high for me to support a religion I couldn't support whole-heartedly.
ReplyDeleteI look forward to hearing more from you.
Thanks. Great nickname. I post Friday mornings around 8:30 AM Central Time. I know exactly what you mean about the price of staying. True believers think that staying in the church is what they want more than anything because they've fooled themselves into believing that, because they are right, it "feels good". Pastors often talk about people leaving the church for what "feels good", but I've never heard one talk about that being a reason for staying in the church, and it very much is.
ReplyDeleteSome posts I like more than others. It depends on how much time I have to work on it during the week and how excited I am about the subject. A post a week is turning out to be a lot more work than I imagined, mostly because I never realized that I'm not always inspired. Every time I post on a forum I am, so it never crossed my mind that I might need to get myself going to talk about atheism, a topic I am passionate about. Your comment may have actually just inspired a future topic about how hard those in the church often work to make sure you stay in the church...if they like you.
I am a perfectionist by nature, so even starting a blog took me a very long time --- I hate publishing anything that isn't perfect. But sometimes you just need to write. I've been taking a lot of writing seminars lately; the most important lesson I've learned is to write as much as possible, even if the writing is bad. You can always revise later but the ideas that emerge are key.
ReplyDeleteYou might consider working in some personal posts. What was it like when you realized you were an atheist? How did your family and peers react? And how do you balance your atheism with the religion of people around you? Why are you so passionate about your atheism?
Anyway, that's just my ramblings. Keep writing, it will get easier.